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Home » Fellowship Forum » Bible Dating--Kings of Judah

Bible Dating--Kings of Judah

Submitted by vicki on Wed, 08/04/2010 - 8:53am
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I teach a "Through the Bible" class in my church (Methodist) for the last 7 years, and we are going through the whole Bible for about the last 7 years. We are in 1 & 2 Thessalonians right now. I have listended to all of your teaching on this and was doing my own study on Daniel 9, the last of the kings of Judah, and the letter of Jeremiah to the Babylonian exiles, where Jeremiah tells them to "unpack their bags" as you said! This caused me to review the last of the kings of Judah after the death of Josiah. I call them the "J" Kings, because their names begin with J, and are confusing to students to keep them in order (Josiah, Jehoahaz, Jehoiakim, Jehoichin). They also have various other names (like Jehoahaz is also Shallum and Jehoiakim was originally Eliakim, his Hebrew name). Anyway, I came across a dating question where II Kings and II Chronicles differ. I know there is a good explanation, and you probably know off the top of your head, and have been asked it a million times, so here is the millionth and one time! In 2 Kings 24:8 it says that Jehoiachin (other names: Jeconiah or Coniah) was eighteen (18) years old when he began his 3-month reign, and 2 Chronicles 36:9 says he was eight (8) years old. Both passages confirm the 3-month reign, but why the 10 year difference for when he began his reign? Thanks in advance.
Mon, 09/20/2010 - 10:27pm
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Thanks!
Thanks for explaining the difference in the years of the dating of the ages of Jehoiachin,and the difference between substantive and accidental scribal errors. I came out to the website tonight to download the rest of II Timothy, and completely forgot I had posted this question more than a month ago! I also appreciated reading your testimony from going from Presbyterian to Catholic, as my story is kind of in reverse. I went from Catholic to non-denominational (through the Catholic Charismatic Mvt) to Methodist...after 12 years through Catholic grade school and high school. But I still appreciate the beauty of the Catholic church the way you describe it, and worshipping with liturgy is very meaningful to me. I completely understand how all of it drew you! I love Augustine of Hippo! His confessions are so inspiring. I still feel a part of my Catholic brothers and sisters. God just led me to a different room in the house for His purposes!
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Thu, 09/23/2010 - 6:06pm
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Thank you, Vicki, for your kind words.  I've tried very hard in my teaching to rise above denominational issues and to focus on the person and work of Christ: Christianity, with a capital "C".  As C.S. Lewis once said (and I'm paraphrasing):  "It is my job to get people into the house.  What room they live in is up to the Holy Spirit."  We are all one family, and we're called to unity in Christ.  I like to think of the Church as a symphony orchestra:  it is made up of many different instruments--strings, woodwinds, percussion, and so on--all played by men and women with a variety of talents, gifts and abilities, but all playing from one score under the baton of one conductor:  the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Wed, 08/04/2010 - 2:12pm
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Dating a King

Vicki,

Wow!  that's a very astute observation.  I've never had anyone catch that before.  Sharp eyes!

You're correct in noting that 2 Kings 24: 8 says Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he became king, whereas 2 Chronicles 36: 9 says he was eight years old.  I suspect that we have a scribal error here.  The Hebrew manuscripts of 2 Kings consistently read that Jehoiachin was eighteen, but only one Hebrew manuscript, along with some Septuagint and Syriac manuscripts, read 2 Chronicles 36: 9 as eighteen.

When scribes copy a manuscript they tend to be very accurate, since they believed fully that they were transcribing "God's Word."  But even then people make mistakes, just as one makes mistakes typing.  In the field of textual criticism, such mistakes are classified into two categories:  substantive and accidental.  Substantive variants change the meaning of the text, while accidental variants do not (a simple misspelling, for example).  Here we have a substantive variant:  eighteen vs eight.

As a scribe is copying a manuscript you can see how easy it would be to read "eighteen" and write "eight," especially if there is a trigger of some sort to initiate the error. We have such a trigger in 2 Kings 24: 12 where we read, "In the eighth year of the reign of the king of Babylon, he took Jehoiachin prisoner."  I can see how easily a scribe could confuse eighteen and eight with such a trigger event associating "eight" and "Jehoiachin" in the same verse.

Since all manuscripts of 2 Kings 24: 8 read "eighteen," while 2 Chronicles 36: 9 contains the variants, I would judge "eighteen" as the correct reading.  If I were a Bible editor, that's what I would print, with a textual footnote explaining why.

Keep up the good work, Vicki!

 

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